Why Are Electric Motorcycles So Damn Expensive?
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I mean, yes, all new technology comes with a significantly higher price and all, since the manufacturer believes in two things: first of all, it's all down to making as much profit as possible given the present conditions. Nobody does anything just for the kicks, save for some mad scientists in a high-tech garage, like the ones we get to see in the sci-fi movies. Everybody wants to make money, even though you need to hide between tons of “green” crap. We can understand this, since it's the very essence of doing business.
Then it's the other thing connected to making money: people who think that since they're somehow among the first ones to come up with something which can really be used, this HAS to come with its perks. Financial perks, as daily praise earns little money.
This works for cars, bikes and motorcycles alike. Nobody wants to cut down profits because most of these guys, especially smaller producers can’t tell for how long they will still be in business before kicking the bucket or being swallowed by larger fish, to whatever end.
Meaning that the bigger fish, in case it's a visionary big fish and has some dimes to spare, will make the small electric vehicle business grow, and so on. Or, simply buying the small manufacturer just to stop him from making more e-vehicles which could one day mess up with the internal combustion engine market.
The Nissan Leaf price starts at around $35,000 (€27,146) for the base model. Add in some optionals, nothing really fancy and you get to the 45-grand bar. Then we look to buy a Brammo Empulse and the base price is just under $17,000 (€13,170).
Are you kidding me? An electric motorbike selling for half the price of an electric 5-seat car? Roof above your head, doesn't get insanely cold, other cars rarely crash into you because “they didn't see you coming” and all the rest of the car-associated fun.
Now, don’t get me wrong: I drive cars and I ride both bikes and motorcycles. And I WOULD ride an electric motorcycle if the prices were lower. But come on, once more we're looking at seventeen thousand US dollars.
If you're into saving fuel money for commuting, go buy a second-hand scooter, or even a used small bike in the 125cc or 250cc class for $500, and the rest of the money up to $17,000 will last you for a lifetime of riding. It's enough to last you to go around the world maybe more than once riding your scooter. And will also give you the ride of a lifetime.
I can almost hear the “Oh wait, we were trying to go green, that's why we wanted an electric bike.” Well, this leads to another thing the e-vehicle fans usually try to avoid: if the current recharging your e-bike or e-car comes from anything else than wind or sun (and hydroelectric, maybe), down the drain goes much of your “green.”
And guess what: the percentage of sun- and wind-generated electricity in the planetary grid is yet close to insignificantly low. Until we do our homework as we should and get into the really green electricity, much of our efforts to help the planet unfortunately will be in vain.
Claiming that the CO2 emissions from a car will disappear once you ride or drive an electric vehicle is just a fallacy: in fact, we're just switching the source of pollution. The energy required to move the car from point A to point B must come from some source and we have the two choices: we either produce it by burning petrol, or by using electricity which has been generated burning other fossil fuel such as coal, methane and so on. CO2 is still released in the atmosphere, back from where we left, back to the drawing board.
The solution is a very complex equation, and the manufacturers themselves only play a small role in this. Since they can't work for scrap, it's obvious that money should come from somewhere. States started offering various incentives and tax rebates, but they seem not enough to cut it. And with the entire world in crisis, maybe a new way to prioritize things would mean the real solution. State intervention could make this new technology both more affordable and maybe help the development of new, better, more efficient devices.
Yet it seems that the big players in the world economy are more on the warfare side and their real philosophy, often dictated by “corporate lobby” is to maximize profits and then “After me, the deluge.” And then it's going to be too late. Way too late.
Until then, still: when will decent electric motorcycles be TRULY affordable?
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On 27 October 2012 at 07:21 UTC, ablackman11 said:
Explanation: Real New Ideas cost money! Research and Development also cost money! So by the time an idea is perfected, money will have been spent. Nobody likes to invest in things that MAY develop. We like to invest in things that HAVE developed. I hope you understand my point. New technology always costs money because early investors or originators may have to be paid back. Also, sometimes some money may need to be put aside for unforeseeable future problems that some new product makers dont tell us about. i.e. Mobile phones, for example. There isnt much information about long term effects of using a mobile phone or living with wi fi.....As for new batteries for vehicles like motobikes - again nobody knows..as people/users in the market all want "it" fully working and functional now!
On 31 October 2012 at 23:57 UTC, Steven Brooks said:
The writer mistakenly thinks that the pollution generated by a car's internal combustion engine (notoriously bad efficiency), and the pollution generated by a coal power plant (pretty good efficiency) are the same. They are not, they are not even close. If all cars were run on engines that had similar efficiencies to coal power plants this world would be a hell of a lot less polluted.
On 1 November 2012 at 10:59 UTC, Jim Winterle said:
Much of the cost of any electric vehicle is due to the battery. Market-ready lithium batteries capable of delivering decent power cost in the range of about $1,000 per kilowatt-hour. The Brammo Empulse bike you cite as an example carries a 12 kWh battery; so, that right there accounts for about $12k or more of the $17k price tag. Until battery prices come down substantially, the only economical e-vehicle will be the electric bicycle, which can get by with a 1 kWh battery and still carry you about 40 miles on a charge. Unfortunately, battery costs do not seem to be coming down as many had predicted, perhaps because of the competition for the limited mineral resources needed to make the batteries.
On 1 November 2012 at 17:18 UTC, Stan Soliday said:
One reason for the extra expense of the eCycle is the battery pack. The Empulse can be had with a 10.0 kWh pack. At about plus or minus $600 per kWh, that comes to $5,000 for the battery alone.
Another reason for added expense is engineered lightweight frames. Zero frames for instance tip the scales at around 18 pounds.
Prices will probably come down over time...
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http://www.evsroll.com/Electric_Motorcycles_and_Scooters.html
Another reason for added expense is engineered lightweight frames. Zero frames for instance tip the scales at around 18 pounds.
Prices will probably come down over time...
EVsRock!
http://www.evsroll.com/Electric_Motorcycles_and_Scooters.html
On 1 November 2012 at 20:11 UTC, KRISJANIS SILINS said:
A brand new Ducati Streetfighter-S costs the same as the Brammo Empulse R...Not to mention Ducatis can cost upwards of 30,000! However when it comes to powertrain, the ducati as amazing as it is, is based on the last century while the Brammo is for the 21st century. $17000 is a lot for a motorcycle IF you don't have the money to buy it! There are plenty of folks willing to spend good money on amazing machines, hence Ducati being such a succesful company...The Empulse R represents a first in technology, performance and style that is available to us and for this $17000 dollars is a bargain. The forward looking motorcylcle manufacturer will dominate the future, and Brammo has the guts to risk it...Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki as Great as they are, if they don't accept the vision Brammo has their market share will dwindle, all Big companies fail when they fail to transform themselves. Just look at how Apple transformed... The electric motor is the perfect powerplant for a motorcycle and I for one will be willing to pay good money to have a Tron Bike.
On 5 November 2012 at 07:48 UTC, Igor Gjurovski said:
I bought defect motorcycle (it looks cool) for $50 and then spent $1500 for electric motor, controller and some SLA batteries. Now I have $1550 electric bike with 50km autonomy and speed is 70 km/h. Do I need anything more for commuting? NO!
http://www.bikeeurope.org/
http://www.bikeeurope.org/
On 22 December 2012 at 14:00 UTC, Gabriel DeVault said:
Wow, this author has absolutely no idea what he's talking about and has no place writing articles about EV's. The comments are much more insightful than the article.
On 21 January 2013 at 22:25 UTC, John Kennedy said:
Look at the costs of ownership over time. Money saved on maintenance, and money save on gas. If you put miles on your bike and do the math, you'll quickly see that the bike starts paying for itself over time. Beyond that, take a look at what Zero is doing, much better value for your money in my opinion. Another thing to consider, they are building you a $12,000 bike, and then designed a brand new drive train and put in a huge battery. These things are expensive. The changes year to year on gas bikes are negligible, and they are building on over 100 years of experience. Electric motorcycles are 5 years in. The first cars would have set you back $40,000+ in today's dollars. Then after perfecting the technology, Ford started selling them for $20,000 down to about $3,000 in today's dollars. Give us a few more years. You'll be impressed.
On 21 January 2013 at 22:25 UTC, John Kennedy said:
Look at the costs of ownership over time. Money saved on maintenance, and money save on gas. If you put miles on your bike and do the math, you'll quickly see that the bike starts paying for itself over time. Beyond that, take a look at what Zero is doing, much better value for your money in my opinion. Another thing to consider, they are building you a $12,000 bike, and then designed a brand new drive train and put in a huge battery. These things are expensive. The changes year to year on gas bikes are negligible, and they are building on over 100 years of experience. Electric motorcycles are 5 years in. The first cars would have set you back $40,000+ in today's dollars. Then after perfecting the technology, Ford started selling them for $20,000 down to about $3,000 in today's dollars. Give us a few more years. You'll be impressed.
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