Audi's R8 EV Nurburgring Fail
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Obviously, all Audis look the same and are quite boring (his personal opinion, not mine), but the Quattro was different, and it left us one supercar offspring. That’s why, if I was the son of a dictator, I would have preferred the Audi R8 over any Ferrari. It’s even cheap enough to leave you with dinars in your pocket to buy gold rims and a big chain. After that, you add guns and a tank, and you have a Middle Eastern royal rap video. Cool, huh?!
But now they’ve managed to ruin the R8. Why? Because of the record set on June 26th by an R8 e-tron, which lapped the famous German track in 8 minutes and 9 seconds. It might be the fastest production electric car ever to go round the Green Hell, but it’s no faster than the Renault Megane RS 265 Trophy.
Again, that dreaded front-wheel drive hyper-hatch pops up and gives me a reason to be an EV hater! I love batteries, they keep my phone working, but they've clouded our judgement and we now think that we can have electric supercars.
I don’t care how many spontaneous toques this thing has got. If it’s not faster, it’s a backwards and dim witted idea. If I was the son of a dictator and an Audi engineer came to my subjugated corner of the world, I would definitely give him the tickle torture. “Was ist das Hans. Why ist der Renault faster than the electric R8” I would say to him. And he would look away in shame, knowing what he did was wrong.
We’re at the crossroads gentlemen, and we need to decide what we want to do with our future. I’m not talking about getting a new job or a degree. I’m talking about what we’re going to do with our sports cars. Basically, I see a mixed bag of marbles, drastically different from one another. On one hand, Aston Martin is still making bedroom wall cars. The AM310 Vanquish is basically today’s Marilyn Monroe in a tight minidress - lighter, sexier but still a classic, and Saddam Jr. likes that. On the other, you’ve got Audi, who prides itself with the fastest production electric road car to ever go round the Nurburgring, only it’s not that fast. And I'm willing to bet that their prices will be not identical but comparable, so somebody got the formula wrong.
Is this what one of the biggest and most prestigious automakers in the world can do? A battery powered toy car for the uber-rich that’s limited to 200 km/h (124.27 mph)? Because if it is, and I was that dictator’s son, I would smirk at the plucky French car that defeated a German and go ‘play’ with my nuclear missiles.
Instead of this electric shaver, they could have made a cheaper R8 powered by the inline-five turbo in the TT-RS. Or they could have made the world’s first mid-engined diesel supercar. Both of those would have made Saddam Jr. very happy, not that he understands the concepts of money and fuel economy.
And I don’t think Audi does either. Because nobody is going to buy a car costing over €100,000 that’s limited to 200 km/h (124.27 mph) unless it’s a classic.
To me, it sounds like we’re confused. Why live with the Nissan GT-R becoming ever more powerful every year while the quattro makers think we’ve all gone poor and can’t afford to fill up our supercars with petrol. Dear Audi, you simply must give up your green ways, Saddam Jr. still has petrol and he’s not afraid to use it.
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On 8 July 2012 at 16:20 UTC, seb.stra said:
Well, the R8 e-tron produces 380hp (40hp less than the 4.2 FSI) and weighs around 1750kg, which is 150kg more.
sport auto achieved a 8:04 with the first Audi R8 which came out. Yes, that isn't the top-end of the R8 development and sport auto only takes 2 laps but hey: That is not such a bad time as you claim in my opinion.
Some other times according to sport auto:
M3 E92: 8:05
DBS: 8:02
TT-RS: 8:09
Carrera S: 8:05
Cayman R: 8:10
There is nothing to complain about the e-tron's time considering it's power and weight.
I know about the Megane R.S. record time, so I don't want to touch this, but seriously, this 8:09 shouldn't give you a reason to be an EV (sportscar) hater.
And there's another thing: As a car brand, Audi (or any other manufacturer) would never tackle an issue that causes that much production costs while there is no market for it. They have to do it...otherwise they'll be considered as a brand that doesn't think about the future or meeting the EU regulations...
Kind regards
sport auto achieved a 8:04 with the first Audi R8 which came out. Yes, that isn't the top-end of the R8 development and sport auto only takes 2 laps but hey: That is not such a bad time as you claim in my opinion.
Some other times according to sport auto:
M3 E92: 8:05
DBS: 8:02
TT-RS: 8:09
Carrera S: 8:05
Cayman R: 8:10
There is nothing to complain about the e-tron's time considering it's power and weight.
I know about the Megane R.S. record time, so I don't want to touch this, but seriously, this 8:09 shouldn't give you a reason to be an EV (sportscar) hater.
And there's another thing: As a car brand, Audi (or any other manufacturer) would never tackle an issue that causes that much production costs while there is no market for it. They have to do it...otherwise they'll be considered as a brand that doesn't think about the future or meeting the EU regulations...
Kind regards
On 8 July 2012 at 16:47 UTC, Mihnea Radu said:
seb.stra:
output when it comes to EVs is a strange thing. I believe the e-tron is actually faster to 100km/h than the V8, though you shouldn't quote me on that, but that does not make it faster overall. The fact of the matter is the R8 is one of my favorite cars ever, and I thing the e-tron project was a waste of money in this case. This car is supposed to be their flagship but they've made it slow. It was launched in 2007 and they should have done something more amazing with it. I know they tested the T5 in the R8. That or a super-diesel like BMW is offering would have been nice.
output when it comes to EVs is a strange thing. I believe the e-tron is actually faster to 100km/h than the V8, though you shouldn't quote me on that, but that does not make it faster overall. The fact of the matter is the R8 is one of my favorite cars ever, and I thing the e-tron project was a waste of money in this case. This car is supposed to be their flagship but they've made it slow. It was launched in 2007 and they should have done something more amazing with it. I know they tested the T5 in the R8. That or a super-diesel like BMW is offering would have been nice.
On 8 July 2012 at 17:35 UTC, seb.stra said:
@Mihnea Radu
Yes, it is a waste of time overall and I'm sure Audi knows that! They all are aware that there is no market for EVs yet.
But what is the i8, the SLS E-Cell or this R8 e-tron good for then?
I think it's only about the image: Going fast with an EV proving that 'green' is not compulsory equal with 'unattractive' or 'slow'.
Moreover I think there is no better EV car than a sportscar at the moment, just face the main problems: High costs and low range resulting in low sales figures and an image of being exotic. They are identical with gasoline supercars! So where else should one start? Selling compact cars for 40'000?? Good luck i3...we'll meet again on the next motor show where you can show us your next feature (maybe battaries on the roof, who knows...)
(sorry that last line was a bit offensive, I'm not a BMW-hater)
Yes, it is a waste of time overall and I'm sure Audi knows that! They all are aware that there is no market for EVs yet.
But what is the i8, the SLS E-Cell or this R8 e-tron good for then?
I think it's only about the image: Going fast with an EV proving that 'green' is not compulsory equal with 'unattractive' or 'slow'.
Moreover I think there is no better EV car than a sportscar at the moment, just face the main problems: High costs and low range resulting in low sales figures and an image of being exotic. They are identical with gasoline supercars! So where else should one start? Selling compact cars for 40'000?? Good luck i3...we'll meet again on the next motor show where you can show us your next feature (maybe battaries on the roof, who knows...)
(sorry that last line was a bit offensive, I'm not a BMW-hater)
On 9 July 2012 at 16:48 UTC, Mark W said:
LOL! So since Audi's first attempt at a performance EV is not the fastest car made, they should claim its all a huge failure and walk away!?!? It's clear this author does not know how engineering and testing works. You start a prototype and test it. Then you make it better and test again. Repeat and then keep repeating! It's how great things are made.
On 11 August 2012 at 01:13 UTC, abd taahir said:
you talking real bull now,this audi rocks
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